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  Perhaps most important of all, the US Government is forcing members of the US military to behave in ways which offend their rigid training and discipline. It is perfectly alright to shoot a man dead in combat if he is shooting at you, and it is perfectly alright to wound a man in combat if he is trying to wound you. On the flip side of the coin, torturing suspects for purely political reasons is not alright under any military code ever written, and it seems likely there will be more “breaches of discipline” if the United States Government is not very careful in the future.



Human Rights Bust The Britain Government for Torture Charges that are similar to what the US is doing in Cuba and in Iraq.

And then there are the foreign countries that the CIA is using to fly detainees to prisons in secret from the media or civilians.



The Irish Government later made a formal complaint to the European Commission for Human Rights and the European Court of Human Rights. The Commission found Britain guilty of torture. Where the prisoners in Cuba are concerned, the US Government is already guilty on more than a single count. In 1975 the United Nations defined torture as "any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted by or at the instigation of a public official on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or confession, punishing him for an act he has committed, or intimidating him or other persons…Torture constitutes an aggravated and deliberate form of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."  The US Government’s use of  isolation units in Cuba breaks two United Nations Covenants against Torture, and the UN  Covenant for the Treatment of Prisoners, both of which the United States has signed.




The following is the complete article by Joe Vialls written in Jan 2002 the link is at the very top of my page look up.

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Isn't it ironic that we continue to use the same Human Right Violations as Approved Tactics to this very day?





Rift Between US Government and US Special Forces
Rumsfeld orders "British" torture for Afghan prisoners of war
Copyright Joe Vialls, 19 January 2002
This May be reproduced unedited  in the public interest



Did you ever wonder who provided you with the startling video of American John Walker being tortured by CIA operative Mike Spann, or those sickening pictures of hooded, chained, and drugged prisoners being herded onto American military aircraft at Kandahar Airport? Extraordinary though it may seem, these and other horrific images were deliberately leaked to you by members of US Special Forces, who had direct control of the areas where the images were produced.  Considerably concerned by the actions of local CIA operatives, and certain illegal orders from Washington, members of Special Forces responded by leaking highly sensitive information to the public.
      Do not misunderstand me.  American and other western Special Forces are not a crowd of harp-playing angels determined to protect the “human rights” of any old Tom, Dick or Harry.  Most members of Special Forces are seriously heavy duty soldiers who go about their business loaded for bear, and God help anyone who gets in their way.  Nor are Special Forces averse to knocking captured members of the enemy around on the battlefield, if they believe that the enemy in question has tactical information that might reduce risks to their own unit. Many years ago I was stupid enough to volunteer for a “practice interrogation” at the hands of these folk; a mistake I remember vividly to this day because the details are etched in my memory. 
      The main point to note is that although painful, my “practice interrogation” was swift and soon over. In a tactical battlefield situation, a soldier or airman is only reckoned to have information relevant for about 48 hours after capture, because grass roots military folk are never privy to long term strategic planning. Thus if a battlefield prisoner hasn’t spilled the beans inside 48 hours, chances are there are no useful beans left to spill. At that stage, Special Forces and other military units ship the captured enemy off to a normal prisoner-of-war facility.  Put simply, soldiers are not “into” extended sensory deprivation, and other obscene forms of torture favored by psychiatrists and psychologists working for most of the intelligence agencies and security services. Details of this torture and its effects will be provided later in the report, but first we need to examine the ways in which the American military in faraway Afghanistan, alerted the American public at home by using members of the media as unwitting tools.
       Early on in the “War on Terror”,  four hundred Taliban prisoners were transported by warlords to a fort outside Mazar-e Sharif in northern Afghanistan. The only cameras and long-range shotgun microphones present were in the hands of US Special Forces, who used them to film and catch the sound of CIA operative Mike Spann torturing “American Taliban” John Walker. Not long after that, someone chucked the so-called Taliban a few grenades which they used to stage a revolt against their captors, who at that time were gleefully pouring oil on the Taliban prisoners and lighting it with matches. A little later, the CIA’s Mike Spann was reportedly beaten to death, and the survivors of the revolt were shipped off to another prison camp.
       Under normal circumstances the footage and sound captured by Special Forces would be considered as top secret material, for Pentagon eyes only, especially as this footage showed the CIA torturing a prisoner. But these were not normal circumstances. A member of the CIA was torturing an American citizen in the presence of “allied” warlords, the latter directly responsible for supplying seventy percent of America’s heroin until 1995 (UN Estimate). So instead of sending the footage off in a diplomatic pouch to the Pentagon, Special Forces “lost it” in the immediate vicinity of the Kabul media pack. If action had not been taken when it was, there is a high probability John Walker would not have survived his “interrogation” by Mike Spann, and without the critical video footage you would never have known Walker ever existed.



 Next up we have the equally astonishing footage of so-called Al Qaeda and Taliban prisoners being led hooded, chained, and medically sedated, to an American C17 transport aircraft parked at Kandahar Airport at the dead of night.  It was this footage in particular that caused such a huge fuss by human rights groups all over the world.  This is not surprising, because without this video footage, few people would believe that Americans from the “Land of the Free” would indulge themselves in such barbaric behavior. So, were members of Special Forces responsible for taking this footage as well? No they were not, but Special Forces did have complete control of Kandahar Airport, meaning that they and only they controlled the flow of people in and out of the Airport proper. In this particular case, Special Forces “gave the nod” to the media, telling them what time to arrive, and where to point their cameras in order to get the best shots of the prisoners.
       This activity took place completely outside the US Government chain of command, and it was a while before Washington found out what had happened. Then US Government officials went ballistic. Unable to retrieve the footage from the various news organizations, officers nominated personally by Donald Rumsfeld frantically asked members of the media pack to sign an “undertaking” that they would not show the footage until they received permission. Too late! By then some of the footage had been transmitted by satellite, and had already been shown to a startled and outraged western public on international television.
       The Defense Secretary, officials, psychiatrists, and psychologists in Washington had several valid reasons to be alarmed, not least of which was the fact that this footage in isolation proves exactly what sort of torture was, and still is, intended for these prisoners.  Military contacts have confirmed that far from being the “very, very dangerous” men claimed by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, most of the prisoners taken to Cuba are low grade fighters and others, i.e. those most likely to “crack” under sustained cruelty, and sign false confessions of the kind needed by Washington to ramp up its flagging “War on Terror”. Interrogators have been told the confessions must be ready  by September at the latest. Exactly how psychological torture will be used to extract the required confessions is explained further down this page, but first we have to consider why the US Government needs confessions all.
       At present the US Government is using inference, innuendo, and outright lies to bolster its ridiculous claim that a bunch of Arab Terrorists were responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington on 11 September 2001, story
here. . There has never been any hard evidence to support this wild and inaccurate claim, so as usual, the US Government is planning one of its more spectacular “Trials by Media” later this year. In the dock on 14 October [shortly after the first anniversary of the World Trade center attack] will be one Zacarius Moussaoui, who  was arrested on immigration charges on 17 August 2001, nearly a month before the attacks, and who has now been charged with “conspiracy” in those attacks. The case against Moussaoui is pitifully weak, with no hard or even corroborative evidence that he knew what al Qaeda was, much less that he was part of the alleged organization.  In any case,  how can a man firmly in US custody at the time of the attacks be a suspect?


     In a court nearby will be Richard Colvin Reid, the alleged “Shoe Bomber” on American Airlines Flight 63,  said to have tried to light his shoe in flight in order to blow up the aircraft. The US Government is now trying to invent “links” to al Qaeda, the principle claim being that Reid worshipped at the same London Mosque as Moussaoui during late 1998. So what? I visited Westminster Abbey the same year as Queen Elizabeth the Second, but I never met Her Majesty personally, and neither of us are members of the mysterious al Qaeda.
      You can see the way this is going, can’t you? One creative false link at a time, until we have enough creative false links to finally convince a skeptical American public that the official lie of October 2001, should be accepted as the actual truth in October 2002.  But the huge problem facing the US Government is that neither Moussaoui or Reid have actually been seen in the company of Osama Bin Laden,  or even in Afghanistan, though we do know the Israelis shipped Reid to Israel for a week aboard one of their very own El Al jets. This total absence of any proof that either man was connected to al Qaeda is where the prisoners kidnapped to Cuba finally come into the picture – God help them.
       Before September is out, the American Federal Prosecution will have signed confessions which “prove” some of the men held in Cuba personally helped to train Moussaoui and Reid in terrorist techniques,  with others possibly providing flight instruction, bomb making, and so on. All lies of course, but the US Government doesn’t care about that. Think about it people, think about it!  What other possible reason can there be for importing these Afghans and Arabs into Cuba, after kidnapping them overseas?  If they were the “very, very dangerous” men claimed by Rumsfeld, they would have been left to the tender mercies of the drug-running warlords recently restored to power by the CIA. Believe me when I say that justice would then have been incredibly swift, incredibly terminal, and no drain on the American taxpayer at all.
       To discover exactly how the “disappeared” will be made to “confess”, we need to go back in history to the seventies, when the British Government made a conscious decision to psychologically torture twelve suspected members of the Irish Republican Army. Remember very carefully here that, like the prisoners in Cuba,  those tortured in Ireland had not been convicted of any crime. Indeed, none had even been charged with a crime. Also like the prisoners in Cuba, hoods, restraints and noise all played a significant part. Here are some subjective comments from one of the tortured Irishmen:-
      “Plain-clothes men beside us. Four blue bags produced and put over our heads. Short of breath because of bag. Then released from handcuffs which connected one to the others and hands handcuffed in front individually. Then run across field to 'copter. Landed, did not know where. Lorry backed up to 'copter. Taken out and thrown into back of lorry, like a sack of potatoes. Lorry smelt of cow dung. Driven in lorry for about 100 yards. Pulled out of lorry (bag still over head) marched into some sort of building. Stripped naked, examined by doctor. Bag still over head. Put lying on bed and examined. Overalls (I later discovered) put on me, taken into room. Noise like compressed-air engine in room. Very loud, deafening.
      “Hands put against wall. Legs spread apart. Head pulled up by bag and backside pushed in. Stayed there for about four hours. Could no longer hold up arms. Fell down. Arms put up again. Hands hammered until circulation restored. This happened continually for twelve or fourteen hours, until I eventually collapsed. Thinking how that Paisley had seized power in some way and that I would be executed or tortured to death. Started to pray very hard. Mouth dried up. Couldn't get moisture in mouth. Pulse taken. Thought of a youngster who had died at six months old, started to pray that God would give me strength that I would not go insane. Fell down several times more. Slapped back up again. This must have gone on for two or three days; I lost track of time. No sleep. No food. Knew I had gone unconscious several times, but did not know for how long. One time I thought, or imagined, I had died…”







Rift Between US Government and
US Special Forces - Part 2

"Official" pictures prove prisoners have already been tortured

Joe Vialls, 22 January 2002


If you were a “very, very dangerous” person as claimed by Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, would you willingly kneel submissively in front of a bunch of American prison guards you are supposed to hate with a passion? Of course you would not. Instead, you would twist and turn at every possible opportunity, and show every imaginable form of resistance known to man. More than anything else perhaps, you would force yourself to hold your head up high.
       Ask yourself: Would Mel Gibson or Bruce Willis just squat there on their knees? No, of course they would not. Would Jean Paul Van Dam take this crap kneeling down? No, of course he would not. So, in these photos first leaked by the US Navy then hurriedly made “official” by the US Government, who or what has caused this unbelievable change in behavior on the part of the prisoners?  Fine details in the still photos shown above actually provide a lot of information, but you have to know what to look for, and how to read the data.
       The armed forces of most western nations have specialists who do exactly this. Known as Photographic Interpreters or Imagery Analysts, these men and women frequently spend hours at a time examining a single still photograph or video frame using stereoscopes and other aids, trying to make sense out of what they are looking at. When they have finished their deliberations, a final report is then passed on up the military intelligence chain of command. We will borrow these techniques and use them to analyze the photos a little later in this report, but first we need to examine how America (and “soft” ally Britain) are trying to make us all believe that this is “normal humane treatment” as defined by the Geneva Covention.
       On this, Prime Minister Blair of Great Britain is probably the most sickening, trying as he is to make the plight of these torture victims look like a free holiday in the Bahamas. Mr Blair sent a three-man team to “investigate” conditions at Camp X Ray, and then had his spokesman put out the following Orwellian statement:
       “The team has confirmed that there are three British nationals in the camp, all of whom were able to speak to freely and without inhibition. There were no gags, no goggles, no ear muffs, no shackles while the detainees are in their cells. They only wear shackles and only shackles - when they are outside their cells. They do get three meals a day including a pre-packed Islamic meal for lunch, they do get as much water as they need and they do get daily medical checks. Nobody is pretending that [conditions] are luxurious but they are basic and they are fit for the requirements of the detainees." Unfortunately this did not sit well with the British tabloid The Daily Mirror, which commented in part:
       “This  is what is being done in the name of humanity, civilisation and the British people.  These prisoners are trapped in open cages, manacled hand and foot, brutalised, tortured and humiliated. We are assured they are cruel, evil men, though not one has been charged, let lone convicted, of any offence. Yet that does not justify the barbaric treatment they are receiving from US forces. Barbarism which is backed by our Government. Tony Blair says he is standing shoulder to shoulder with President Bush. Not on our behalf, he isn't. Mr Bush is close to achieving the impossible - losing the sympathy of the civilised world for what happened in New York and Washington on September 11”. The newspaper continues: “If Mr Bush insists on following this path, the rest of the world should leave him in no doubt that he walks it alone. And Tony Blair should be leading the protest.”
       Can Prime Minister Blair really believe the bland statement: “The team has confirmed that there are three British nationals in the camp, all of whom were able to speak to freely and without inhibition.”? Surely not, his wife is a leading Human Right Lawyer, well versed in the methods employed at concentration camps around the world. Cherie Blair will be aware as anyone of the standard ploy used when “important” visitors are due at the camp. All signs of psychological repression, used hypodermic needles, empty drug vials and so on are hidden in a storeroom somewhere,  and the prisoners made acutely aware of exactly what will be done to them later if they dare breathe a word to the “important” visitors. Most prisoners keep their mouths tightly shut as instructed, anxious to avoid a bonus hypodermic of whatever drug it is that makes them feel so terrible.
       Having mentioned drugs, this is the point at which we turn to the techniques used by photographic interpreters and image analysts, in an attempt to establish which specific forms of torture have been used on these men, for rest assured they have certainly been tortured already. Based on these findings, we will then attempt to predict what is in store for them next, though second-guessing a bunch of crazed shrinks from CIA headquarters might prove difficult.
       We already know from the Kandahar photographs that all of these prisoners were subjected to sensory deprivation while en-roue to Cuba, a time period of more than thirty hours. The prime objective of this was total disorientation, which would have been achieved. We know they were forced to wear gloves, meaning their tactile senses [touch] were severely limited. We know they were forced to wear full-face hoods, meaning their visual senses were neutralized, and, at best, their auditory senses [hearing] severely affected.
       We do not yet know whether the prisoners were forced to wear ear muffs inside their hoods during the long flight, so at this stage it is impossible to determine which particular auditory effect was desired by their torturers. If  hoods were worn without earmuffs, the prisoners would have been subjected to muffled non-stop monotonous aircraft noise, not unlike the “white noise” used in Northern Ireland by the British (see Part One for details). If hoods and earmuffs were worn together, then all sound would have been suppressed, robbing the prisoners of their ability to compensate balance using the middle ear, every time the aircraft pitched or rolled. If you doubt this is genuine psychological torture, try wearing mittens, handcuffs, leg irons, a full-face hood and a set of earmuffs while riding a roller coaster. You will very swiftly change your mind. Now try riding the same roller coaster in this condition non-stop for thirty hours.



Torturers with wives and families, like to play make-believe about treatment like this, because somehow they have to justify their actions to their loved ones and themselves. Some will act like President Bush and claim “they had it coming to them”, while others will try and pretend that the pictures leaked by the US Navy from Camp X Ray simply show the men waiting to be allocated individual cells. No they do not, and besides, who are these men?  We have no way of telling whether these pitiful creatures were really members of the largely imaginary al Qaeda, members of the Taliban, or simply Afghan citizens snatched off the street of Kandahar or Kabul by the Central Intelligence Agency.
       Now take a close look at the photographs. The one of the left was leaked by the US Navy, and the one of the right is my modest attempt to enlarge a section to show the actual equipment attached to each man. The first point to strike any analyst looking at the left hand picture is that all ten prisoners are kneeling with their legs crossed under their buttocks. Not a very comfortable position, and not one they would choose. If the prisoners were merely waiting for cells they could have been seated on simple benches bolted to the ground, but were not. In the position they have been forced to squat, their calves and feet will eventually go numb, thereby enhancing the overall effect of sensory deprivation; a form of torture expressly prohibited in America and most other civilized nations.  This point alone provides hard evidence of torture by the three Americans shown in the photograph, who can later be identified and prosecuted for war crimes. 
        Once more in the left picture, although the prisoners cannot see each other at all, all ten are leaning forwards at an angle more acute than that required by the handcuffs attached to the waist belts. Why? Also, with the sole exception of the central figure, all have their heads hanging down close to their chests. Why? For any analyst this is a tough call, but the answer is of critical importance in determining the prisoners’ exact treatment during the hour immediately before this photograph was taken.
       If the US Government was telling the truth when it stated that these prisoners were being properly fed, watered and housed, then they would still have their strength. If they still had their strength they would be holding their heads up high – an entirely natural thing to do while trying to maintain equilibrium. They are not holding their heads up high, proof enough of maltreatment, but not enough to prove partial starvation or deprivation of water.
      What, then? The closest we can get at this stage is to consider not just the bowed heads, but also the hunched posture of the bodies. Which position would you naturally and willingly adopt if you had severe stomach cramps? Correct – you would bend forwards as far as possible, trying to ease the pain. We do not have absolute proof of this yet, but drug induced stomach cramps are as old as the KGB in the Gulag, and the CIA in Cambodia and Laos. There are a number of different drugs that cause this effect, most of which have been used by both the KGB and CIA during their long and despicable pasts. Another way this posture could be created in all of the men would be by electrodes applied to the genitals, though this seems unlikely in the confines of a quasi-military establishment like Camp X Ray.
       Both photographs provide additional supportive proof that induced stomach cramps are the most likely cause of the unbelievable subservience of these “very, very dangerous” men.  Look at the picture on the right and decide which part of the equipment strapped to this prisoner is effectively surplus to requirement, i.e. not required at all in terms of restraint or sensory deprivation. Have you taken a good look? OK, the only surplus item is the paper surgical mask obscuring each prisoner’s lower face. It is far too thin to be of any use in blocking the olfactory senses [smell] in sensory deprivation terms, but it does effectively mask the entire face from the gaze of casual passers by.
       Stomach cramps are excruciatingly painful, and the pain always shows on the face, especially around the mouth when the victim grits his teeth and sometimes dribbles. Now then, we wouldn’t want a passing US Navy rating from the nearby base copping an eyeful of that, would we? Prisoners gnashing their teeth and foaming at the mouth might be deemed reason enough [even for a lowly rating] to report the matter to his commanding officer. Hence the paper face masks, because realistic analysis provides no other reasonable explanation.
       All this from a single photograph? It does seem a little unlikely, but trained photographic interpreters and imagery analysts have in the past derived far more detail from a single frame, simply because they knew what they were looking for. If the US Government wishes to prove this analysis wrong then all it has to do is allow the general public access at designated visiting times, as is normal at other prisons.
       Naturally enough the US Government will do no such thing, gripped as its members are at the moment by the need to exact revenge on anyone, innocent or guilty, in order to bolster its flagging integrity. George Dubya Bush and Donald Rumsfeld in particular, appear to be in the grip of severe Redneck Swamp Fever.
       The incredibly brave spook torturers at Camp X Ray are proceeding with their rerun of the Spanish Inquisition, happy  in the belief that they are immune from prosecution. After all, has not their Commander in Chief George Dubya Bush stated publicly that Cuba lies outside United States jurisdiction?  Well yes he has, but George Dubya is almost certainly wrong.
       Guantanamo Bay was first leased by the United States from the new Republic of Cuba in 1903, to implement an act of Congress of the United States approved 2 March 1901, and an appendix to the Constitution of the Republic of Cuba promulgated 20 May 1902. The lease stipulates the area is to be used only for a coaling and naval station. No provisions exist at all for prisoner of war or concentration camps.
       For nearly one hundred years, the United States has exercised the essential elements of sovereignty over this territory, without actually owning it. Persons on the reservation are amenable only to United States legislative enactments. Guantanamo Bay is thus a Naval reservation which, for all practical purposes, is American sovereign territory, with all that implies for American torturers later caught on the mainland of the United States. As George Dubya himself is so fond of saying: “These are evil men, and we will bring them to justice.”


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